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a response to my anti-racism page...

Most people give responses to my anti-racism page that may be taken as ignorant, but are headed in the right direction -- I don't know what possessed this guy to think that I'd add his very racist comments to the page. Here they are (and with just about the worst mistakes I've ever gotten, too):

"You limited dealings are steering your perception. [oh really? and have you ever lived with a minority family for a year or even had a long conversation with a minority?] Try living in a big city [I used to live in D.C. -- don't get much bigger than that] and you'll be eated alive. [eated, huh? Didn't know that cannibalism was such a problem in big cities, I'll have to watch out for that. Don't want some homeless guy gnawing on my leg.] You'll be a victim within minutes of stepping off the bus or train. [all I can do here is roll my eyes] I see it everyday. [then why don't you DO something about it? If you stand and watch you are every bit as evil as the one who does it.] Diversity would be great in a perfect world, but in reality, its destroying good neighborhoods. [You obviously don't understand diversity. Diversity means different races coexisting in a friendly manner -- and it is impossible for that to 'destroy good neighborhoods.'] I would love to cite examples here but it would take too long and leave you with no more webspace. [don't worry, you won't be using any of my webspace] This country has a long way to go in terms of equality. [the first truthful thing you've stated] Minorities first off, have to learn to not be so racist (and they are more racist than whites) and begin to not expect to be given everything. [oh yeah, that's right -- it's not your responsibility, it's the minorities' fault that whites are usually separatist and often supremist. You don't have to do anything but sit on your ass and rail against them for living in the same city, and they need to do something about racism.]"

No, dummy -- the more powerful one is supposed to make the first step in any kind of movement toward equality, or it won't work. Did he learn anything from what I wrote? NO. Because he is racist -- and the second-worst kind, the kind that thinks that he's being magnanimous by saying that "diversity would be great (but not in my world!)" The worst kind is of course the spiteful racists.


And today must be troll day, because I got this comment in my guestbook (from the same person? who knows):
Name: popshot
Date: Fri Feb 04 06:37:55 EST 2005
Thoughts: "This site is done pretty well, but your views are not based on reality and your artistic side needs to grow a good deal. Most real critics will call your work juvenile, while most will call it corny. I'm not trying to badmouth you in anyway, but you need to grow a little more before your art will be anything meaningful."

I replied: I am well aware that my paintings and drawings aren't terribly good -- and you're right, they are juvenile; even the most recent is over four years old. I included them in my website because they are a part of me. And quite frankly, yes you are 'trying to badmouth' me -- saying you aren't doesn't change that fact.


Anytime somebody says, "Not to be ________, but..." they're about to follow that with a _________ statement, whether it's racist or sexist or rude or whatever. What's disgusting is that we actually allow them to get away with it because of their false 'disclaimer' -- it makes it seem like you can't argue, when in actuality, their lie makes no difference to the truth.

feelings: irritated
sounds: Massive Attack: "Risingson"

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dancingbull ══╣╠══
Eh...take it for what it's worth....have fun with it. I like getting views..and giving them....regardless if they agree with someone.

This World needs some fashion...
belenen ══╣garrulous╠══
No, I don't think the world needs racists.
eternitywaiting ══╣╠══

I live in Baltimore City. I've lived here my whole life - in fact, I'm in the very same house I grew up in. Baltimore City is 85% black. That's not something I'm pulling out of my ass, it's a documented fact about the diversity of the city.

I run a business 6 months out of the year in this very black city. I'd say my customers are MORE than 85% black, just because I'm surrounded by black community centers - on two sides by black churches. (And I don't want anyone starting on me about there being "black" churches - what I mean by this is simply that the entire congregation is black. It's just a statement of fact, not some sort of racial/religious derogatory comment.) My customers are (for the most part) absolutely wonderful people. And they LOVE me. Little white-ass me. Many of them call me their boo and insist that I am the only one allowed to make their snowballs (to the point that many have said, "don't let the black boy make my snowballs, I want YOU to do it.) When they see me in public (and my snowball stand is VERY popular, so it happens all the time, they're always *so* nice (if a bit vocal - you'd be shocked how many times I hear, "Hey snowball girl!" being shouted from the other end of a mall.) Many of them hug me and ask me about my life with genuine interest, because they genuinely care about this girl who makes frozen treats for them during the summer.

Now let me digress for a moment to discuss my experience in a town with ONE black person. The townspeople were HORRIBLY cruel to me, made judgements about me based on NOTHING factual whatsoever, and made DEATH THREATS against me. Whites hating whites, for no good reason. Interesting.

One of my best friends in the whole world is mixed. She lives with her mother (her father passed away some years ago) and her mother is black. I have never known a better woman than her mother, and she treats me like another daughter. They are WONDERFUL PEOPLE, despite the fact that they're those evil "city blacks."

The problems that that guy talked about (he specifically made illusion to violence, but this can be taken and expanded to cover wellfare issues and the like as well) are not BLACK problems. They are CITY problems, and the problems of lazy, dilinquent city people, and cities are predominantly black. It's not because they're black, it's because they're city people. I know a fucking lot of wellfare living, gang-joining white people too. And the only reason it can even be called a CITY problem is because - here's a shocker - that's where you find the largest concentrations of people! Of course the murder rates won't be high in rural areas, there aren't many people to kill. But I bet if you looked at the PERCENTAGES, rural areas would be just as bad, if not WORSE, because many rural areas are still stuck in the past, where women did what you told them or else, and you could defend your beliefs with the rifle you keep in your pickup.
belenen ══╣shimmering╠══
Very good points you make, that 'city problem' thing is something I hadn't thought of that makes so much sense.
texflex ══╣Lurking╠══
As to the second guy...
Isn't that just like the folks who always say "I'm not one to gossip, but..." LOL.
It would be a wonderful world that held no ingnorance, or hypocracy. The sad fact is, it will continue to be there no matter how hard we try. But for the occational person who learns something, it makes it all worthwhile.
I live my life by a number of silly phrases I call laws. Here are two that might help.
Tex's Laws of Politics & Other Trivial Items #3: Those who learn but do not teach, are just as bad as those who never learned at all.
Tex's Laws of Politics & Other Trivial Items #12: Ignorance is not knowing, stupidity is not wanting to know. Always treat Ignorance with patience, and stupidity with insolence.

Hope you have a better day.
belenen ══╣curious╠══
Re: As to the second guy...
I like your 'laws to live by' -- where can I read them all?
misemifein2 ══╣╠══

But that aside, these people really do believe it. They beieve they are justified in believing it. It's still "us and them". Black people are racist, white people are racist. Not all of either group. To say one is more racist than the other is stupid. All people. If you put any people into groups then they're going to go against each other.

Minorities shouldn't expect to be given everything? How much research has he done here? Because that sounds like he's just getting it off what some other racist bastard has been saying. I know I've heard that one before. What does he belive, might is right? Do minorities expect to be given everything? I don't think they do, I think they just expect to get the same as other people. Think he would be a little bitter if he got paid less, got picked on by the police, had less chance of getting a job. What's he doing towards equality? Fuck all. Racism is a problem for everyone, and he isn't going to stop it by just accusing people. Sometimes racism is a problem, sometimes it's a symtom. I think that minorities would have a better reason to be racist in any case, what with all the oppression.

And what is his great experience? What right has he to say these things? From what he has seen. Perhaps from what he's read in the newspaper. Doesn't sound like someone who knows that much about all the issues involved here.

I'll stop now, I'm rambling and not making much sense. Just, these people really get me angry. Never convince them.
belenen ══╣shimmering╠══
The 'us and them' thing is really the heart of the matter. Separatism is the enemy of equality. You can't be separate and equal when one group has 2 people and the other group has 10 -- the only way to be equal is to be one group.

And you are absolutely right, racism is a problem for everyone. The thing is, people just can't see (or don't bother to think) how incredibly awesome diversity would be, how much we could learn from each other's cultures and viewpoints.
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ohmysterious ══╣╠══
some people... what morons!
jedibubbles ══╣╠══
Damn, Bel, what's going on? Did you inadvertantly swallow an Ass Magnet? Because you've certainly got them swaggering out of the woodworks!

To Daily Troll #1: To quote the old proveb, "'Tis better to be thought a fool than to open one's mouth and remove all doubt," and you just opened your mouth. It's a city problem, moron, not a "race"-related one; actually, to be honest, it's a straight-up PEOPLE problem. So if you're gonna be a hater, at least be fair: join Misanthropes Divided.

To Daily Troll #2: *laughs maliciously* Oh, I notice you didn't give a real name. Good thing, too, or I'd be Googling your incredibly pretentious ass right now to see YOUR fucking artwork. REAL critics don't critique like that, you inarticulate fucktard, and doing so has merely branded you as the truly juvenile one. People like you give artists a bad name. And I'm tempted to straight-up email you and tell you so myself. Actually, once I get my website back together, I think I will, just to see what sort of idiocies you come up with.

eternitywaiting ══╣╠══
Heh...Ass Magnet....
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ohsaycanyousay ══╣╠══
I am so glad I live in Vancouver. In general, it is such a wonderful, accepting city. Yes, we have racist bastards too, but I don't run into them very often. Or maybe it's just because there are so many different cultures here, the racists are more likely to keep their mouths shut. My hubby and I have been victims of racism before (I'm in a mixed-race relationship), but only by little old white ladies. I forgive them.
jedibubbles ══╣╠══
The opinions of little old white ladies are something to be greatly feared. My aunt (66) scares me sometimes. o.0;;

And I just have to say, ohsaycanyousay, that every time I see your icon, I cackle. It makes my inner evil minion happy.
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mabels ══╣╠══
I know this isnt the point...but how can he make a judgment on your artistic ability when youve not got much art up...unless im missing something.
belenen ══╣garrulous╠══
I have no clue what set him off. There are only three images, for crying out loud, and one isn't even finished.
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jedibubbles ══╣╠══
Wouldn't they be? *blissfully imagines*
moody_godess ══╣╠══

blacks and whites alike need to want it for it to happen. racism comes from both sides of the coin..and no matter the causes or reasonings for the racism, its puerile and must stop for equality to begin. i wish racism would leave this world so people can exist. not black people or white people. just people.

do i think that will ever happen. unfortunately, no. and this saddens me. but i do think we've come a long way *collective we* ...but it'll be 1000's of years before the scale will tip in favor of equality. i can only do my part in savoring my beliefs and teaching my children the same.

some of who are close to me have definate views that i do NOT agree with. and im proud to say that ive convinced one person in my family to see things a bit differently. there's progress, which is a lot better than what was.

and yeah, the guy was rude re: the guestbook post. but, it was his opinion. so just take it as that.

*yeah, i really gotta sign that guest book.* ill work on that :)

belenen ══╣shimmering╠══
I think we can take it a step beyond ourselves and our children -- but it requires a lot fo risk and sacrifice.

Lots of kisses to you for signing my guestbook so wonderfully!!!!
aubkabob ══╣╠══
art is something that we create because it MEANS something to us. not because... guh. i can't even come up with a good response to it because .. guh.
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