November 2017
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SUP's homophobic censorship of LJ


SUP has censored several interests including BISEXUALITY and faeries from their list of most popular interests. Stewardess writes:

"Using the wayback machine, I was able to compare Livejournal popular interests from May, 2007, with those of today. In order of size, these are the interests 6A/SUP has disappeared from the daily popular interests report:

Sex, Boys, Girls, Fanfiction, Yaoi, Hardcore, Porn, Bondage, Faeries, Pain, Depression, and Bisexuality.

I confirmed the interest faeries leads to GLBT links, along with a sprinkling of Spenser study groups, pagans, and collectors of winged dolls. Since Wicca was not censored from the most popular interests, it's clear who 6A/SUP is going after."

Help me do something about this. Click here and enter in this text (edit the last paragraph to suit you):
I just discovered that SUP has removed these interests: "Sex, Boys, Girls, Fanfiction, Yaoi, Hardcore, Porn, Bondage, Faeries, Pain, Depression, Bisexuality" from LJ's daily popular interests report, and I am outraged by this censorship. I want LJ to reflect its users, not the prejudices of its owners. I have seen a large number of my friends moving to another journaling site, with more threatening to do the same, and I think that LJ needs to pay attention to this before it loses a large chunk of its paying customers.

I am a _______ (plus, paid, permanent, basic, early adopter) account holder, and if I left, you would be losing the revenue I bring in by ________ (viewing ads, paying yearly, inviting new people to join LJ).

of course, you can also just write your own text. and re-post this! I want to see it FLOOD my flist because I want LJ to at least take NOTICE, which it doesn't seem to be doing. And if you think of anything else we can do to make it known, please let me know and I will take part!


ETA: If no one speaks up about this, they assume that no one cares, and the next time a censorship issue comes up, they are far more likely to act in favor of it because they don't see any negative consequences. If, instead, they face outrage at this, they are less likely to censor in the future.

LJ fixed it!

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Comments
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fionavere ══╣╠══
I honestly don't have a problem with the censorship of bisexuality, albeit a little fucked up if they censor that and not heterosexuality and homosexuality as well. Livejournal is a privately owned company and they have the right to censor what they wish. It's a little... self defeating if they do not comply with what the majority of their users want out of a blog sight, but they have the right nonetheless. I personally find listing one's sexual preference under interests a little weird. Please know that this is merely a personal opinion, and I do not judge you by it in the least if it is something you do. (I honestly do not know, it's been quite awhile since I've looked at your interests, the last time was probably around the time I friended you.)

All of that being said, faeries?? How in the hell does that offend anyone's sensibilities I wonder?
belenen ══╣analytical╠══
Having the right doesn't make it the right choice. It is a stupid financial decision and a move with scary implications for people who value LJ for the ability to express oneself without censorship. They have the right to randomly delete everyone's LJ, but that would also be a very negative decision, both for the people who lost their journals and for LJ itself.

How would you feel if they censored words that mean a lot to you? it's fine if bisexuality doesn't, but if you consider the fact that LJ used to be free of censorship and is now taking steps toward becoming more censored, it threatens your freedom of expression as well.

They deleted 'faeries' because most of the links to that interest were about LGBT stuff -- meaning faeries as in the slang for gay men.

If no one speaks up about this, they assume that no one cares, and the next time a censorship issue comes up, they are far more likely to act in favor of it because they don't see any negative consequences. If, instead, they face outrage at this, they are less likely to censor in the future.
fionavere ══╣╠══
I wrote too much, so I have to break it up...
belenen ══╣╠══
Re: I wrote too much, so I have to break it up...
fionavere ══╣╠══
Part II
belenen ══╣╠══
Re: Part II
fionavere ══╣╠══
Re: Part II
belenen ══╣╠══
Re: Part II
acid_burns ══╣╠══
fionavere ══╣╠══
acid_burns ══╣╠══
depravedhumane ══╣╠══
First off, let me say I re-posted that on my journal as well as sent the feedback.

Now...

If you are going to have a site that is for the emotions, feelings, likes and even dislikes of people, you have to let those people whom you are providing this service for voice their opinions in any and every way that your software is capable of providing. If you choose to censor certain words and phrases, then the entire spirit has been lost.
belenen ══╣strong╠══
thanks for reposting and sending the feedback!
happystance ══╣╠══
that is weird that they would censor depression.
belenen ══╣eccentric╠══
I know, right? can't have people thinking LJers are all depressed!

*rolls eyes*
armandii ══╣╠══
This whole thing has seriously pissed me off. I've opened an account at insanejournal though for the time being I'm still hanging in here and will be making my views known to those in charge.
belenen ══╣amused╠══
yeah, I might get pissed about things but I think the only way I'd leave LJ would be if it was pried from my cold dead fingers. ;-)
malignlibra ══╣╠══
Honestly, they've proven over and over again that they don't really care for other's opinions. Just like the outing of basic accounts, and their other sneaky bullshit. They're not even listening to their advisors. They're in it for money at this point, and it doesn't matter what anyone thinks. For 1 person who is upset there is a dozen more buying paid accounts, and they know that. They've already suckered us in, we've built friendships and communities and we're suction cupped here.
belenen ══╣garrulous╠══
They've already suckered us in, we've built friendships and communities and we're suction cupped here.

You said it. There is a lot of shitty stuff I'd put up with because I am just so attached to LJ. I think the only way I'd leave would be if the vast majority of my flist left... even half of it leaving wouldn't be enough to make me go.
notashamed ══╣[buffy] xander-palm╠══
Wow. This makes me really really angry. I don't even have more words for it right now.
belenen ══╣garrulous╠══
yeah, still waiting on that explanation! I think it is simple but they just don't want to admit it. :-/
notashamed ══╣╠══
i'm a little confused. That list up there, is that the ones that are going to be deleted? Or are those the ones that are top interests.
belenen ══╣garrulous╠══
those are the ones that don't show up any more in the list of top interests, even though the numbers themselves would put them there.

http://www.livejournal.com/interests.bml?view=popular&mode=text
austentatious ══╣╠══
LJ is not pleasing ANYONE lately. I think that this is all completely and totally outrageous. Do you mind if I link this post in my own journal?
belenen ══╣overwhelmed╠══
nope, but it's kinda obsolete now *blush* sorry for the late reply!
jumpinglegacy ══╣Animals (guinea 4s)╠══
I find it interesting that they took out "boys" but left in "guys", took out "girls" but left in "women", took out "faeries" but left in "angels", took out "pain" and "depression", but left in "emo".

Anyway, I left feedback for them on this subject along the lines of what you recommended. Censorship has no place in a journalling community, as journalling itself is supposed to be of free expression. What are they going to do next, not let us use those words in our entries?
belenen ══╣strong╠══
thanks for leaving the feedback!
sylvanfae ══╣SaveTheWorld╠══
Haha, "drugs" is still on the top interests list.
kevloid2008 ══╣╠══
viva la ganja!
belenen ══╣╠══
shioneh ══╣our livejournal╠══
And if you think of anything else we can do to make it known, please let me know and I will take part!

this idea is more a response to basic account axing than the disappeared interests, but linking you anyway!

http://community.livejournal.com/ljspeaks/11153.html
belenen ══╣strong╠══
thanks dahling!
kevloid2008 ══╣╠══
I agree with your first commenter that it's a commercial website and they have the right to do what they want. are they pussies? yes. will this bite them on the ass? the free market decides that.

I personally wouldn't care if they took, say, jimmy buffett or computers off the list. then again I'd never notice cuz I'd never check.
belenen ══╣shock╠══
obviously they have the right. I wasn't disputing that so I don't know why people keep bringing it up.
sidheblessed ══╣╠══
I don't believe in censorship as I believe sheltering people from certain subjects just increases ignorance. The concern I have is that people on my flist will feel less free to be themsleves and express themselves, which has always been LJ's main point.

A couple of years ago I remember LJ controversially did not remove an offensive LJ because they felt they had the right to express their opinion (the LJ was perpetuating miseducation about a certain dog breed which many users felt extremely passionate about) and that LJ itself was a forum for such an expression. Considering how staunch LJ used to be on freedom of speech, this new move seems like a back pedal.

I'm not entirely certain where I will go from here. If they listen to their users, I can forgive and forget. If things get worse, such as they stop allowing you to list bisexuality or faeries as an interest altogether, then I might have tomake some decisions.
belenen ══╣garrulous╠══
yeah... I still have faith in LJ, but even so, things would have to get extremely bad for me to leave. However, their behavior does effect whether or not I will invite new people or buy LJ stuff.
happystance ══╣╠══
hey bel, i wanted to join curygirls and it said to contact you.
belenen ══╣curvygirl╠══
sent you an invite, did you get it?
lizliz ══╣╠══
linked here from someone else's LJ, but...

For what it's worth, the LJ feedback team consists of users just like you who are banging their heads against their desks just like you with regard to stupid changes.

Not to sound like someone preaching about how to try and keep your favorite show from being cancelled, but dropping a postcard to TPTB is most likely more effective than harassing the unpaid volunteers.

Jason Shellen
576 Folsom St
San Francisco, CA 94105

Six Apart - Sales Department
548 4th Street
San Francisco, CA 94107
belenen ══╣garrulous╠══
thanks for the info! I really had no idea where to send my complaints so I went for the only way I could find.
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