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my beliefs on the parts of a person -- spirit, heart, soul, mind, and body
DISCLAIMER: this is my view. These are my beliefs. They are not based on any religion, though religions have planted seeds that sprouted into these beliefs. They cannot be 'right' or 'wrong' and I will not tolerate any such claims. Feel free to share how your beliefs differ or are the same, but approach with respect. (i.e.: "I think this" not "no, it is this way") This is an extremely sensitive and extremely intense part of my belief system, and careless words would be very hurtful.

spirit (ka) -- the way you connect to life source.
        This is your core self, perfect and unable to be broken, corrupted, or changed in any way, because it is literally a piece of life source within you. This is where all healing comes from. Our spirit is in constant communication with the source of life, but if our heart is closed we cannot sense our spirit, our soul, mind, and body cannot connect with it. Sometimes we need to connect with someone else in order to reach through our other layers and allow life force to flow fully through our being. Prayer, sex, and energy healing help with this (and probably other things I don't have words for). Everyone has a perfectly beautiful spirit, but sometimes it is deeply hidden under layers of pain and cannot be easily seen -- and sometimes people are very wounded in heart or soul and treat us terribly, but we can still see their spirit and so we still love them. (that can be extremely confusing, because often all others can see is the hurtful outside, while you see the spirit -- and it's really hard to recognise that sometimes despite that connection, it is not the right time to be close to that person)

If you have a strong spirit connection with someone, you have a strong intuitive understanding of the other person. Once this connection is discovered, you can often sense how your spirit-kin is feeling, even over distance and without talking or knowing anything of what they are experiencing. Thinking the same thing at the same time happens very often, even without any context. Empathy is extra intense between spirit-kin, which makes for very high highs and very low lows; your emotions reflect each other and increase when you intentionally share them.


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heart (ib) -- the way you connect to the world.
        This is where a person's spirituality is, how they emotionally understand their faith. This is like the iris of an eye -- it can change by opening up or closing, but otherwise stays the same. You can choose whether to open it or not, but if the soul is wounded the heart cannot shine through clearly even if it is open. It's the part of you that connects with the rest of creation -- people, animals, etc. It's where your own style of loving comes from.

When you have a strong heart connection with someone, you tend to share spiritual views, and have a similar way of expressing love, and love affects you in similar ways. You often have the same 'love language' as your heart-kin -- physical affection, gifts, words of affirmation, acts of service, or quality time. You often share spiritual connections, such as having similar totems or elemental identifications (air, water, earth, fire).

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soul (ba) -- the way you interact with the world.
        I think this is where a person's personality (outward expression of self) is, how they approach challenges. This changes a lot as it matures. If it is wounded and not yet healed in a place, that place will be a dark spot where the heart and spirit cannot shine through.

When you have a strong soul connection with someone, you are passionate about similar things, have similar 'causes' or priorities, and work really well together on projects. You often share creative outlets (both into music, or painting, or poetry). You have the same approach to challenges/conflict -- you might both charge them head-on, or you might both try to smooth things over. You have a similar approach to change -- you might both seek it out or you might wait for it and then carefully adapt.

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mind -- the way you think about the world.
        This is quite literally the way your brain works -- it includes your IQ, how you learn, what you know, the pattern in which you think. If one has a mind connection with someone, communicating is incredibly easy because you have similar ways of interpreting words, so misunderstandings happen much more rarely. I think it is important to cultivate your mind because the more you understand, the easier it is to allow compassion to flow through you.

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body -- the way you move in the world.
        the housing and vehicle for your self, allowing one to interact on the physical plane.

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I see spirit as this one universal thing that all living beings are facets of (people, trees, animals, rocks, etc). Humans have additional non-physical parts; our individual hearts are wrapped around our spirit-facet, and then our soul is wrapped around that, and it is our soul that we bump into others with. I kinda see life source as this snakelocks anemone, and humans are special tentacles with two 'gloves' on, the heart and soul. We are unique in the same way each tentacle is unique, and we are all the same in the sense that we are all part of the same body, the universe. We are all extremely important because only by understanding fully every human and every living thing could one even begin to understand the universe. At our core, our spirit, we DO understand everything fully, and I believe that when we die, we will "know fully, even as [we are] fully known" because our wounds/blocks will be gone, and our spirits will be able to shine through us completely, even into our minds. I believe we can do this in a limited way now -- we call it intuition, when our spirits speak and our mind hears. "Intuition allows one to draw on that vast storehouse of unconscious knowledge that includes not only everything that one has experienced or learned, either consciously or subliminally, but also the infinite reservoir of the collective or universal unconscious." (Frances E. Vaughan) Or basically, our intuition is our connection to life source, which is all things and therefore omniscient, and when we tap into it we can know anything that is known.

I see the ethereal parts -- spirit, heart, soul -- as colors. People who have like colors to me have a connection to me. For instance, I see myself as having a vivid violet spirit, and I see Hannah with a lavender-violet spirit, so we have a strong spirit connection. I see my heart as spring green, and I see Aurilion with a minty-teal heart, so we have a very strong heart connection. I see my soul as bright scarlet, and I see Kat with an intensely red soul also, so we have a strong soul connection. Colors are the best way for me to understand these connections, because they don't fit into words, but you can get the gist of them by reading my description of the types of connections. (I also have ethereal connections with others, but I'm not going to list them all now because I want to make that into its own post)

thanks to Nick, Hannah, and Ava for inspiring me to FINALLY get this written.


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Comments
belenen spiritual
on totems, I don't really know, I suspect it is different for each person. I think if you feel a strong affinity with an animal, that is a sign that it may be a totem of yours. (when I say 'totem' I may not mean the same thing some cultures do, I just don't have another word) I would LOVE to learn more of how others discover theirs because I'm sorta in the beginning stages of learning mine, still.

on elemental identification, I think there may be patterns based on birth but I don't see them as necessarily the same as the zodiac does. For instance, I've known Aquarians who seemed very air, and others who seemed very water, and the water ones weren't near Pisces. I think it is intuitive. I see myself as 40% water, 40% fire, 15% air, and 5% earth.

on colors, it's all intuitive for me. I would like to be able to see auras, but I don't, not in a visual or minds-eye sense. I feel colors as if they are a scent that people give off.

on the last part, I also only connect with people who deeply desire to understand themselves and others. ♥
I love this. I love you for this. We share the same ideas. Except mine includes polytheism. :)

belenen Renenutet
awww ♥ ♥ ♥

mine does too, sorta. I have different deities but I see them as different faces or facets of the One love ♥ like... people are the leaves, deities are the branches, and God/dess is the whole tree.
So you're like a soft polytheist, then. :)
belenen giggling
heh, I guess that works ;-)
I'm a mix of hard and soft. I believe that each deity is individual and separate and his or her own entity. Yet I also believe that each god and goddess connects to something bigger and to each other. I guess like humans. :)
In fact, there's a whole scene in my novel that explains this. I'm thinking about posting it.
belenen Renenutet
I thought that was a term you just randomly made up -- that's actually a commonly-used term? cool!

oooooh I hope you do post it!

the concept of the Christian trinity -- separate yet one -- is kinda how I see deities. Like, Ma'at and Jesus are not at all the same, yet they're both God/dess to me. It's so hard to explain. I'm hoping to get a post done on my deities soon. it's such a HUGE undertaking! ;-)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hard_and_soft_polytheism#Variations
:)

Oh, I understand completely. It's sort of like the All-One concept.

Good luck getting some pagans to agree on such topics, though! I've gotten into arguments with a few hard polytheists who couldn't understand or accept the idea of "all gods separate yet one." I appreciated their views, though; it made for some good debates.

If I decided to not post that scene, can I email it to you?

belenen curious
wtf. I don't get how people can get pissy that someone doesn't agree on this stuff. It's not like it's objective -- there's no book that says "and all gods are not one" or vice versa. To try to get others to agree is like trying to write their holy book for them.

of course! I would be delighted! I want to start communicating with you more anyway (outside of LJ commentations), and get to know you better. Do you use gtalk?
Exactly. When I was first exploring paganism, I found that my head spun often. It seemed so contradictory, in that no three people seemed to agree on one thing (hence the popular quote, "Ask three pagans what paganism means, get six answers"). But that's what's so great about it. All these different ways of seeing the universe.

Yes, I use Gtalk. Whenever my husband is away on business, we communicate through Gtalk and AIM chat. I have a webcam, too!
belenen analytical
see, I very much believe that no two people believe the EXACT same thing, even if they were raised in the same church and never questioned what they were taught. Faith is intensely personal. So to me, differing answers mean that people are really questioning and finding what fits them (well, hopefully. You get the people trying to homogenize views/beliefs anytime you use a common label).

what is your gmail/gtalk handle? mine is belenen ;-)
You took the words right out of my mouth. :)

My handle is rosefox8. :)
Wow, I imagine this one needed huge amounts of mental energy to actually put into words! Substantiating mercurial ideas like these can be quite enough to turn one's brain into mush. (I studied religious theory in college and I'm still surprised to this day that I escaped with any semblance of sanity, lol).

I think the 2nd to last paragraph is the one that struck the most chords with me. I'm one of those people who has a wretchedly difficult time trying to really connect with other people on anything more than a superficial level, and it's not that I have huge barriers up (at least, I don't think I do) or that I'm off on some other planet that keeps me from being able to empathize and relate to others, because nothing could possibly be further from the truth in that regard, but it always seems that at some point I just hit some kind of wall in trying to forge relationships with others (oh hi run-on sentence haha). You described the different systems of people's subconscious and unconscious as being stratified rather than only remotely interconnected pieces randomly floating around inside each of us, and thinking about it in that manner kind of helps me visualize which level is impermeable to different people.

Sorry for jamming this with 938275742 buzzwords, my son kept me up all night wailing because he's getting a tooth and I'm on my 4th cup of earl grey. ;)
belenen distance
yeahhh, it totally did. I had several conversations and days worth of writing before it was done.

I see what you mean about the difficulty connecting. I used to think something was wrong with me until I actually met some people that I had a connection with and it was like "OH, I just hadn't found the right people!"

I'm glad this helped! ;-)
I... just wow, thank you for this.

True, yes, everything, just wow.
belenen bel hearts lilylight
and you are welcome, milove ♥ I thought that this would resonate with you ;-)
oh it does, it does
The description of how you see the colours of the different aspects of people is fascinating. Do you physically *see* the colours with your eyes or do you feel it intuitively?
belenen colors of the wind
it's all intuitive for me. I would like to be able to see auras, but I don't, not in a visual or minds-eye sense. I feel colors as if they are a scent that people give off -- smell is a much closer sense than sight. heh. smelling colors ;-)
Disagree with your "religion", but will just ignore that.

I like the ideas behind the spirit, heart, soul, mind and body. Congraduation on writing that and putting so much time into it.
belenen confused
religion? I don't have a religion. :-\ Do you mean that you do not share my beliefs?
.... that is why I put religion in quotes. I think you do have a form of religion, you believe in something higher then yourself and I think that is a form of religion (in a way).

some disagreements:
I dont think sex helps you connect your spirit with the "divine". I also dont think your spirit is in your heart. I am a very studious, scientific person so a lot of what you are saying I would credit genetics and biology.

some similarities:
"all healings come from your spirit." Mabybe not all (I think medicine helps some) but atleast all emotional healings come from the spirit. I very much agree with the body and the mind.

I would make a comparison that you are liquid. You change to the environment and adapt; that is how you shape your beliefs. While I concider myself more solid. I already have my views formed in my own mind.

I love reading how others view things differently then me.
belenen analytical
well, I have beliefs and faith, but not any structured, externally-written code of beliefs, which is what I see a religion as.

hm, I like your comparison. I agree, to an extent. When I have strong faith in something, it takes a lot to change that belief. So I would say that I am more... malleable. I can melt and reform, but it takes a great deal to cause that to happen.
Have you ever taken a look at the gnostic religion?

I'm gnostic, and share many of the same spiritual ideas as you, apparently. I love hearing about others' spiritual beliefs; it promotes understanding among different groups while letting them see connections. I think that studying other forms of sipirtuality allows us to step back and really see people.

In summation, this was great. It gives infight on a whole new level.
belenen analytical
hm, I haven't, I don't think, other than a cursory glance. I'll have to look more into it. ;-)

I think that studying other forms of sipirtuality allows us to step back and really see people.

I agree! I think it is absolutely shameful that religion is not taught in school very much -- I think it is as essential to a human's development as math and reading, if not more. If all religions and philosophies were explored, I think children would grow up so much more understanding of each other and the world. *shakes head*
Personally, I think public schools really do need to offer classes on various religions. It's something that needs to be taught, because ignorance can be painful and dangerous. And when I say various religions, I really mean various! I learned by reading my parents' books on world mythology, but my school taught religious views as either Christianity and Judaism or mythology (Greek, Egyptian, etc). I felt like the teachers didn't appreciate the non-Abrahamic religions as well as the Abrahamic ones.
belenen analytical
yes, exactly! If people worshiped, that makes it a religion in my mind, not mythology.
*nods* Same here. The main reason I don't call myself religious is that I don't worship. I invoke, communicate with, and appreciate my gods and goddesses, but it's not the same as worship, which is a powerful and specific kind of appreciative dedication.
belenen intrigued
oh, wow. So, if you don't mind sharing, how come you don't worship? and what is 'worship' to you?

I ask because I always thought of a god as a being that one worshiped.
Well, I'm not ready to be so devotional. I prefer to keep a certain personal distance from my gods. I'm going to think about it so I can explain it better.
This was absolutely fascinating to me, but I have a few questions for you. I understand that it must have taken a lot of you to write these powerful words, but if you ever have the time to answer I would love to know the response.

First, you spoke of the connections people can have with one another through spirit, heart, and soul, but not mind or body. Do you believe that we cannot have connections that only take place in this realm, or was there another reason for excluding them?

Secondly, I'd be interested in your answer to one question that always plays on my mind: why? I suppose that is the ultimate, the end-all, be-all, but not knowing really holds me back. Why has God/dess put us here? What is the intent?

Finally, it sounds as though much of the task at hand is to better yourself, and by doing so form connections that better the world. In what other ways do you worship your God/dess and give thanks?
belenen spiritual
I do think we can have mind connections, but I don't have much to say about them -- it has been a long time since I experienced one without an ethereal connection, so I don't really know how to define them. As for body connections, I really don't know. I can't see myself ever exploring a body connection without an ethereal connection, so... ? do they exist? I've no idea. I'm inclined to believe they don't. Except maybe as inherited memory.

Why? I think Earth is a spiritual school. I believe that we all lived in the spiritworld before we were born, and that we, together with Deity, planned out our lives and made all of our choices there. I think we come here to learn, in order to grow, in order to love more. We can do all of that without coming here, of course, but it takes much longer. Also, I think we come here to experience separation, so that we can fully appreciate unity. And of course there is more, if I knew all the things we come here to learn I'd have moved on, heh. But the ultimate goal is loving more -- more deeply, more fully, etc. When love is all you've ever known, of course you love. It is much harder to love here, where people hurt you. I think all humans are incredible -- we are the brave ones. I think many spirits do not choose to come here -- instead they watch and support us from the spirit world (some call them angels).

In what other ways do I worship... hmm. I think creating is a sacred act, an imitation of the Creator, so any creating is an act of worship... and singing, and dancing... and meditating. I don't do as much 'formal' worship nowadays, and I miss it. It's hard to experience it alone... there is such an amaaaaaaaaaaazing feeling worshiping in harmony with other people.

I think you may have also been asking about my 'practices'? I also pray, and send love (by which I mean an actual experience of gathering love in my heart and then 'sending' it, not really explainable), and ... spiritually commune with the earth, especially trees. it's very hard to put into words.

As for giving thanks, I try to live in a state of gratitude -- it can be hard sometimes but I've learned the trick of calling it up when I don't feel it, so it's not as hard as it used to be.

feel free to ask more questions ;-)
This was really interesting! I love to read about other people's beliefs and I'm glad you wrote this out finally.

I really liked your idea of heart and soul, very interesting concept.
belenen spiritual
thanks! glad you enjoyed! ;-)
jenniology Spiritual lotus
Beautiful post, thank you for sharing.

Your description of the spirit is very similar to what we Kemetics call the ba - one of many parts of our spiritual beings, the pure and untainted core that will never perish.

A mix of your view of the heart, soul and mind is in turn similar what we'd call the ka - the personality, the person you are right now.

Very interesing reading - thank you!

On another note... I, to some extent, also think of people's beings in terms of colours. I think I might make a post about that in a minute...
belenen intrigued
My views have been influenced by what I have read on the ancient Egyptians' view of the ethereal self, so it makes sense to me that you would see similarities ;-)

I saw your post on colors -- very interesting! ;-)
You're putting me in mind of making a similar post.. something like this...
belenen intrigued
ohhh, I look forward to that!
Interesting blog. I added you.
belenen vivacious
thanks! ;-)
Interesting stuff.

What do you think determines a person's colours?
belenen colors of the wind
I think colors are just... how a person is made. their essential stuff. Sorry, can't put it any more specifically. ;-)
belenen garrulous
thanks!
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