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Mr. & Mrs. YouthPride Pageant photos! / performing gender / genderqueer & genderfree


SO, Saturday Ash, Alivia, and I went to a drag show! (the Mr. & Mrs. YouthPride Pageant) :D It was a little more... objectifying than I was hoping for, but not so much that it kept me from enjoying it. People did come up to tip the performers but they didn't poke it into their clothes, and the tips went towards YouthPride (the organization that held the pageant). Apparently the performers had been told not to dress scantily (since it was a youth event) but some of them didn't listen :-p

The main reason I went was that Viv was participating :D I liked zir view of drag -- how it's a way of showing that gender is something one performs, not something one is. But if there isn't at least one genderqueer* or genderfree* person performing, I don't think I'd want to go to drag shows in general because if no one fucks with it and everyone does it the same way, I don't really see it as any more progressive than if the people on stage were born male wearing 'male' clothes or vice versa.

*For me, the term genderqueer does not work because I feel like it implies inherent gender rather than socialized gender (even though it actually doesn't), but I was delighted to realize that it can mean essentially the same thing as genderfree. Genderqueer means rejecting gender norms for oneself; genderfree means rejecting the whole structure of gender. I had thought that being genderqueer meant approving of stereotyped roles in general while rejecting them for oneself; actually, it simply makes no comment on the roles except in how the particular person expresses zirself. So genderfree is a subset of genderqueer :D





on the way to the show

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Alivia

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Ash's eye

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I can't remember anyone's names :-p

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I loved zir makeup

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Ze was AWESOME. Ze danced to Ne-Yo's "Closer" -- both emotive and whoa-sexy!

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Ze had the most adorable dimples!

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Viv's answers were inspiring ♥ Ze spoke of being genderqueer and I wish I could remember everything ze said! Very roughly paraphrased, ze said that a genderqueer example would inspire people to shake up their expectations.

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Ze reminded me so much of Sarah Chalke!

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ze had so much energy!

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for some reason ze reminded me of Jennifer Beals

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I loved the classic glamour of this dress

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and zir performance was very earnest

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Ze danced to "Save a Horse (Ride a Cowboy)" -- hilarious!

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Ze acted to a voiceover from what I'm guessing was an episode of I Love Lucy -- it was cute ;-)

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Viv performed one of zir own songs, about drug addiction -- amazing lyrics (it got stuck in my head)

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Ze was also the only one that actually SANG, heh -- everyone else lip-synched.

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Ze did this hilarious "I am Satan" dance with a slide-show illustration

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I loved it! except for when ze said that the devil would never go to Georgia, haha.

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And I didn't get any photos of this, but 2008's Mr. YouthPride did a dance to "Baby Got Back" and came over and put zir arm around me for part of it *giggles and blushes*

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Viv won!!! :D :D :D as is only right, of course :D

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we went to Taco Mac afterward

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Comments
musicandmisery ══╣╠══
Hehe, so crazy and cool! :)
aerialmelodies ══╣╠══
Aww, what fun! And I think the I Love Lucy skit was from the episode about Vitamitavegemin. I know too much about that show. XD
rockstarjoker4 ══╣╠══
Looks like a great time!

Your ideas on genderqueer and genderfree are very intriguing. I love reading your stuff because you're always making points that challenge the assumptions we accept from society, and it helps push me to think more about these things!
jennifer19 ══╣╠══
I LOVE Drag shows. I haven't been to one in years but I love them. The energy is just so amazing.

The performer in the red dress reminds me of Jennifer Hudson for some reason... GORGEOUS!

Love it!! :-D
tralfamadore ══╣Milk - I'm here to recruit you╠══
This post made me realize that I had never given a real strong sense of consideration towards why I tend to choose to refer to myself as genderqueer as opposed to genderfree. I suppose in part it has to do with the fact that gender stereotypes are so widely recognized as the norm and completely acceptable. My thoughts never extended far enough to thinking that I could challenge the fact that gender even exists in the first place. Rather, I think I have always sought to challenge people's expectations of gender. That yes, ideas of gender are still in the forefront of our minds in many ways, but not everyone conforms as nicely as society would like us to.

To me genderqueer has always been kind of like playing fun at the notion of gender, messing around with people's notions and giving them something unexpected. I know that I can't convince everyone on earth that gender is ridiculous, arbitrary, obsolete, and unnecessary, so instead I'm going to give them a little mental makeover by challenging their perceptions.

I'm not quite sure if I'm making sense or describing this properly, because I haven't given myself adequate time to think it out. I love reading your thoughts on the subject though and the way you've constructed the idea of genderqueer as kind of a subset of genderfree. In my mind it's all working towards the same goal of challenging notions and teaching others that their expectations and limitations are completely ludicrous.
camilleyun ══╣╠══
What a fun time!
I would love to see a show like that.
I went to a local place here but the performances were nothing special. My neighbors know of a better place so hopefully that will be much better.
wolfmare ══╣╠══
Part of what you wrote here just sort of clicked in my head. I've been feeling a bit balky about using pronouns when I reply to your posts, and I just finally figured out what the difference is for me.

I refer to people by the 'gender' they've chosen. Including some that aren't really recognized by society. My partners have both actually considered the issue previously, and both came to the conclusion they prefer the gender society labeled them with. Myself, I'm fine with either 'she' or 'shi', as I consider myself androgynous. A friend and ex of mine is 'she' even though she was born male, and chose that.

You make me think, and I like that! ^_^
I suppose I'm genderqueer in that sense, but adaptable because I go with what people have chosen for themselves. Even if their choice is to NOT choose and simply go with what society has labeled them with, that's still a choice of sorts.

Whee! I feel better now!
belenen ══╣analytical╠══
yeah, I totally get where you're coming from on that and I like that way of treating gender too ;-) I suppose the main reason I don't follow that path even though I like and admire it is that it doesn't change the way I think about people the way that using genderfree pronouns does, and it doesn't provide a 'marker' that lets people know that I reject the concept of gender. There are other ways of achieving the same affect, I'm sure, but none that work as well for me.
wolfmare ══╣╠══
*nods* Everyone's different. We've got different paths, but can both agree the current beliefs people have about 'gender' could stand to be changed.
belenen ══╣iconoclast╠══
exactly -- different paths, same ultimate goal. ;-)
spokenonlyonce ══╣xian / coexist╠══
hey there, I followed you over here from giniliz's journal (I am kind of bored waiting for my partner to finish something and I was re-reading the conversations there from a few weeks ago about the cis/trans thing, after another LJ friend of mine had posted something about that that irritated me this evening) and after looking at some of your entries you really seem like the kind of person I'd like to have on my friend's list. In fact, I've been recently realizing that I am genderqueer... or at least, that's the term I've been using, but actually, I like the term genderfree much more. Because yeah, my lack of agreement with society's identification of me as a woman is less to do with feeling like I'm some "other" gender and more to do with feeling like I have no gender! that gender doesn't exist in any fundamental or inherent way, it's just a social category.

I also love talking about energy and dreams and I think you said something about being a Jesus-admirer, which I am too. Anyway, I'm gonna add you, and you can feel free to add me back if you like!
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