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dream (up rickety staircase, down in elevator) / frustration w/ too heavenly minded for earthly good


Last night I dreamed of a place I've been at least twice before in dreams: a VERY tall house (I've never seen the ceiling) with an open, windowed side allowing a balcony on every level of the house. Like before, there was a staircase twisting up and up through open air. (like a cross between this, this, and this) I climbed and climbed and felt I had gotten halfway before the stairs started to grow narrower and get rickety, and instead of being connected to the wall every half-story, they just went up unconnected to anything, swaying, with no railings. I realized this and decided that I needed to go back down to warn people about the need to support the staircase, so I got off at that level to take the elevator (for speed). I walked in and looked around only to realize that there were no buttons and I had no power over where the elevator went. I started to panic but then blimeyzawn1 pressed the button to call the elevator and I flung my arm through the opening and warned them not to get on. I got off and took the twin elevator down -- checking from the outside to see if it had buttons (it did). Then my alarm went off, super frustrating because I wanted to find out what happened next.

Stairs are a very important symbol to me dream-wise, though I hate them in real life (most of the time a ramp would be better AND more accessible!); in dreams they usually mean progression, that I am growing in some area. I felt like there was something deeper about this dream so I looked up elevator and stairs. dreammoods.com says that climbing stairs is a symbol of transformation, progressing, growth, that being stuck on a broken elevator is a reference to being stuck in life, and descending in an elevator can symbolize being grounded. The shortest part of the dream was the 'stuck' part, which I think is relevant. The more I think about this dream the more I feel like it's related to the discomfort I have with most spiritual people being "too heavenly-minded to do any earthly good."

Yesterday I went to a spiritual gather of people who focus entirely on the mind and the inner world. They feel that the highest good for all is to come into a greater spiritual awareness; this is a huge movement with many followers, most of whom are fairly wealthy from what I can tell (explaining more would give away what kind of group it is). They give to the community but ONLY in non-physical ways. They do wish for everyone to have access to their spiritual tools and are willing to help in some ways (which is sadly unusual), but their concern stops there. I find this really problematic, and a common attitude among spiritual and/or artistic people. I feel that the rickety staircase with no supports was a reference to that; me getting off the staircase was my psyche telling me that I shouldn't invest more in this group. The problem is that there is so little community for people who want to engage in spirituality AND in social justice. Marx's attitude that "abolition of religion (often extrapolated to spirituality) as the illusory happiness of the people is the demand for their real happiness" is really common among the social justice folk I know, and the few who do have a spiritual practice have a solitary one. I keep trying to find something that is local, free (because otherwise is classist as fuck and 'suggested donations' make it NOT FREE), that cares both about spirituality and about practicing justice now. I suppose I could offer something at my house, but I feel like I don't have enough skills to do that by myself. I feel like my psyche is pushing for me to do something, but so far I haven't come up with an idea that seems workable.

(submitted for LJ idol topic 2: the missing stair)

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kmiotutsie ══╣╠══
I like your analysis!! Good on you to be able to make sense of your own dreams; I always feel like I'm too close to my psyche to ever figure out the messages, even if they seem clear to people close to me.
belenen ══╣dreamy╠══
thanks! Mine are usually super obvious to me, but then someone else will comment and I will realize a whole new level; interpretation is as magical as the thing itself!
bunnika ══╣bunny: on the path╠══
I am so with you on that whole last segment. I'd really love a sense of community, some group of people exactly like you describe with whom I could communicate, bond, and share spiritual and SJ interests with. I have literally no one. And my social anxiety is so bad, I'm afraid of entering situations where I could hope to meet people.

Move to Maryland and we can build one together. ^.^
belenen ══╣teasing╠══
Um, how about YOU move where it's WARM and we build one :D
bunnika ══╣╠══
i_will_not_say ══╣Teacup Rose╠══
Thank you for letting us Idol readers see a little bit how your mind and your dreams work. :)
belenen ══╣dreamy╠══
you're most welcome :D
rainbowfox9 ══╣╠══
I spent some time in different circles when I was sort of first starting on my spiritual journey, and I think I sort of know what you're talking about. It's like, they are so engrossed with their own 'evolution' that they don't consider it might be helpful (or necessary) to bring all that understanding and compassion back down to the ground to help others (and not in a holier than thou kind of way -- I mean genuinely doing things to help others). What I've discovered on my own journey is that it is so important to bring 'down' the insights and wisdom into the every day life, to help on the more 'mundane', every day level, otherwise one ends up getting rather top heavy.

I think most people don't see the inherent dangers in being all up in their heads, but I know how it feels to me and from that I've learned to bring it into my heart, feet, and hands.

That sucks, so much, though. There are people like what you're looking for, I do believe, but finding them may come when you least expect it. (which I know is one of the corniest lines ever, but it is usually true)
belenen ══╣dreamy╠══
yeah I'm nesting on it, I think I'll find what I seek.
seakittym ══╣╠══
I love those dreams that revolve around a house that you may or may not have been to in reality. Most of my dreams take place in the house my grandparents lived in when I was little.

Also, yes, suggested donations. That's a ticket. I mean "donations yay" is understandable - but having a minimum donation... Not so much.
belenen ══╣dreamy╠══
I loooove all the houses that my subconscious creates. They're the most beautiful I've ever seen, though often wildly impractical.
alycewilson ══╣looking glass╠══
I've had similar dreams and, in fact, was thinking of writing about it for my entry. Great minds think alike!
belenen ══╣dreamy╠══
cool!
chillychilly22 ══╣╠══
Yesss, this type of spirituality you speak of makes me feel some type of way. Perhaps I don't know enough but I find it lacking in integrity. Even if one believes we are spiritual beings from a loving source, it doesn't negate we are still earth-bound humans living in physicality. There's that fine line between escapism and empowerment.

Creating a group that tailors to both spirituality and social justice sounds amazing, fresh, and jittery (for lack of a better word). The idea sounds unheard of but I'm sure you're not alone!
rainbowfox9 ══╣╠══
yes yes yes.. 'fine line between escapism and empowerment'

YES. that's my take, succinctly. thank you, concise writer!
chillychilly22 ══╣╠══
belenen ══╣╠══
lilmissmagic71 ══╣╠══
Interesting take... good job... made me think about what dreams may be telling me. :)
belenen ══╣dreamy╠══
thanks!
crazypuce ══╣╠══
I like your dream analysis.
I'm wondering at you have the stairs and the elevator if it doesn't mean that you need to get things separated. One for your spiritual grows only and one for doing your Earth good, like walking two paths at the same time.
belenen ══╣analytical╠══
hmm, for me the key to interpretation is how things feel -- if I was happily walking up and riding down I'd agree with you but the fact that I felt like I needed to warn people of danger makes me think that it's pointing at a different goal.
crazypuce ══╣╠══
elledanger ══╣╠══
I really hope you're able to find a group (or maybe even take the step to start your own) that fulfils the need your dream is telling you is there. Good luck!
belenen ══╣dreamy╠══
thanks! I hope so too!
baxaphobia ══╣╠══
This was a really interesting read. Yeah stairs are definitely a powerful symbol. Hopefully you can find a community that supports your spiritual beliefs.
belenen ══╣dreamy╠══
glad you enjoyed! and thanks for the well-wishes!
kagomeshuko ══╣╠══
Interesting thoughts! I hope you like my entry!
belenen ══╣garrulous╠══
thanks!
adoptedwriter ══╣╠══
It's hard to find a good fit within a spiritual community. Interesting entry here. AW
belenen ══╣dreamy╠══
that's so true. and thanks!
imafarmgirl ══╣╠══
I hope you come up with the right idea.
belenen ══╣garrulous╠══
thanks, me too!
lawchicky ══╣╠══
How interesting!
belenen ══╣dreamy╠══
thanks!
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