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am I losing Angelina as a role model?


I'm starting to lose respect for Angelina Jolie, and I hate that, because she has been an inspiration to me like no one else. But the reason I have admired her is because she has always been so honest and open -- and I am not so sure that she is anymore. I'm still trying to give her the benefit of the doubt on the Brad Pitt thing, but if that rumor on CNN.com is true and she is allowing Brad to co-adopt her kids, I will have a very hard time believing that she is not in a romantic relationship with him. I have never seen any photos that really imply that they are lovers -- and their body language says 'just friends,' since they're always standing/walking at least two feet away -- but they are actors after all. And either way, she's not being open about the relationship (that I have heard, anyway -- I don't buy magazines, I just read stuff online). She has always been open about other relationships -- why is she suddenly private about this one? What happened to the girl who said exactly what she thought/felt, no matter what anyone thought?

I will always respect her as a person, and admire her acting skills, but the main reason I LOVED her seems to be disappearing. Were she an actual friend of mine, I'd reach out to her -- as it is, all I can do is watch sadly.

{this paragraph is a possible ED trigger} And an even deeper concern of mine is her weight. No matter what the body-dysmorphic girls in the communities say, she is definitely thinner than she used to be, and she is NOT at a healthy weight. She was healthy in Gia, Playing By Heart, even the Tomb Raiders, and she was okay in Life or Something Like It -- but in Mr. and Mrs. Smith I kept cringing at how thin she is! I know she has gone through periods of SI, and I have heard rumors that she used to have an eating disorder... I'm really afraid that now she is caught in an ED. I read an article about her nearly passing out in an airport -- which could be a variety of things, I know, but looking at her it seems obvious to me that it was from lack of nutrition. That bothers me because I can't help her, it really really bothers me because I care about her! And no one will even admit that she's suffering. They go on about 'oh, she's always been thin.' DUH. I have over a thousand photos of her on my hard drive -- I know what her body looks like and I know she has a slim frame. But there is a huge difference between her natural slenderness and this current skinniness. Her arms and legs look achingly thin, her breasts have shrunk, her jawline is extremely pronounced, you can see all of the bones in her hands and feet. Yes, I know you could see the bones before, but before you had to look. Now they pop out of the photos at you. And she looks SO exhausted and fragile.

And I feel terrible for her about that -- but at the same time, I feel like she is betraying all of her fans by not admitting it. She's allowing thousands of girls to think that her current body is healthy and attainable, and it's not, without self-destruction. And she herself said, "I feel better when I have more weight on me. So it's when I'm not feeling like myself that people are telling me I look great. It's so strange. No matter what, somehow it's like I'm not enough." I really hope -- and pray -- that whatever it takes, she will get healthy, return to the vibrant honesty and openness that she used to shine with. And I hope/pray that she slows down -- it may just be overwork, after all.

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streaked_beauty ══╣╠══
I think that even though celebrities have all this money and whatnot its difficult to maintain a personal life and to keep an image of themselves they need for their career.

I like Angelina Jolie and I think that perhaps her change (weight and choice of disclosure of personal life) might be influenced by her children. Her weight loss might be attributed to her busy life and probably even busier now that she has two children to take care of. Another reason she might not be flat out honest about her relationship might be Brad Pitt not wanting her to say something also.

I also dont know how I feel about her children being in the spotlight as much they are, because I think that might be a bit...risky.

I think with the media you never know whats really going on.

I was actually disappointed when I heard about Jessica Simpson and Nick Lachey (sp) splitting even though I dont really care for them. I just wanted it to be just rumors and not for the media to be right. Although I dont know if they split up because of rumors and being it too difficult or what happened, but its still messed up. I wanted them to stay together to prove the media is just full of it.

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belenen ══╣garrulous╠══
Another reason she might not be flat out honest about her relationship might be Brad Pitt not wanting her to say something also

That is a very good point that I didn't think about...

I want Nick and Jessica to stay together too, just because the media is trying so damn hard to split them up, and I want SOMEONE to flout the media. So basically, the exact same reason as you. ;-)
girlblue_77 ══╣╠══
You should post some of your pictures for comparison. For some reason, I remember her looking really thin in Gia and Girl, Interrupted, and I thought she looked surprisingly healthy in Mr. and Mrs. Smith, compared to other celebrities. So, hearing your opinion was surprising to me, and I am wondering if I am totally delusional or something...
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eternitywaiting ══╣behind the mask╠══
She has been pretty skinny before - I can't relate it to where it lines up with what movies she was doing at the time, but I posted some links below.
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evileve ══╣╠══
I think that you never REALLY know someone unless you live with them.
Honest or not.
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belenen ══╣garrulous╠══
hmm. I guess that depends on what you mean by 'really know'...
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notashamed ══╣[lina] unhcr╠══
this is how i have been thinking as well. I hate it when i see comments of people who think she isn't too thin. and i still don't know how to feel or react to the Brad thing. When i saw that story on CNN i felt so weird. I can't believe it, even if it is from cnn and not from the enquirer or something.

But sometimes i wonder if she has become more private since becoming a mother. i wonder if she isn't talking as much because she knows that the things she does influences her children as well.
garrulous
belenen ══╣garrulous╠══
It's good to know I'm not alone in this!

I don't know about the kids thing... I don't really see how being more private would benefit her kids in any way, especially since they call him daddy, apparently. I'd think that being open would benefit them more. But there's probably something I haven't considered.
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eternitywaiting ══╣behind the mask╠══
Honestly I can't remember well enough how she looked in Mr. & Mrs. Smith to cast an opinion, but I definately think she's gone through some weight fluctuations over the course of her career in general.

She's been unhealthily skinny before (like here, here, and here). I wouldn't be surprised to hear she's gotten skinny again, though I would hope that the reason behind it now would be exaustion from running around with two young children. I don't want to think that there's anything wrong - but I can't say I'd be all that shocked. She's a woman in Hollywood, and regardless of how strong she may be, she's still under the same glaring eye of public opinion as everyone else.
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belenen ══╣analytical╠══
but even in those pictures you can't see the bones in her hands and feet all sticking out. :-\

She used to look like this:
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Now she looks like this:
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Of course, those are formal shots so they mostly photoshopped it out -- but you can see a definite bit of upper-chest-rib going on. worrisome...

I'll hope that it's just overwork. I suppose only time will tell.
paradigm_shift ══╣╠══
I was shocked this past weekend when I saw that on CNN. She must really be involved with Brad for him to adopt her children- I mean I know people who date for years before considering adopting their partner's children. Obvioulsly if this is true it speaks volumes about their true relationship. What a blow to Jennifer as well.
garrulous
belenen ══╣garrulous╠══
yeah... I don't know what to think about it. I think it's time she got very plainspoken about thier relationship.
ohsaycanyousay ══╣╠══
I had noticed that she has been looking skinnier lately. She also doesn't look nearly as healthy or beautiful as she used to in photos of her with no makeup on. A few years ago I met Angelina Jolie in person (she ate at the restaurant I worked at) when she was wearing no makeup, and she was gorgeous.
garrulous
belenen ══╣garrulous╠══
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaHhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh! *faints* YOU MET HER?????!?!?!?!?????? SO not fair!!!

wow. Excuse my fangirl moment. I suppose I still love her. heh

I agree with the makeup thing. And in all photos she looks exhausted, rather than glowing with life like she used to.
angelina oollah
invisibleglue ══╣angelina oollah╠══
I used to be a massive fan of Angelina's. She was the first girl that I was ever attracted to, and she played a massive part in my life about 3 years ago. Yes, I still like her now but I don't feel the same way about her, and I sometimes feel guilty for it because I almost feel like I'm betraying a friend. I think she's changed, I also loved the open, generous, crazy aspects of her but now, all I can see is something else, and I can't put my finger on it.
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belenen ══╣garrulous╠══
Yes, I still like her now but I don't feel the same way about her, and I sometimes feel guilty for it because I almost feel like I'm betraying a friend. I think she's changed, I also loved the open, generous, crazy aspects of her but now, all I can see is something else, and I can't put my finger on it.

That is EXACTLY how I feel.
ex_whatsarah880 ══╣╠══
I really think that if she's letting Brad co-adopt her kids (if that's true, of course) that they're in a relatinship and I wish she'd just be open about it. In Mr. and Mrs. Smith her proportion were way off and scary. I hope she gets better. Like you said, it just might be overwork.
garrulous
belenen ══╣garrulous╠══
I really think that if she's letting Brad co-adopt her kids (if that's true, of course) that they're in a relatinship and I wish she'd just be open about it.

I know! And when I first hear it I was so convinced it was just a rumor... *sigh*
dreaded_bliss ══╣╠══
She quite worries me as well. I thought I was the only one who noticed how alarmingly thin she was in Mr. and Mrs. Smith.

She has become quite evasive and artful in answering questions. I once admired her "this is me-no apologies" attitude toward life. She acts like she has something to hide now. I don't like it.

I hope something gives so she doesn't have to lose that special place.
garrulous
belenen ══╣garrulous╠══
It's so good to know I'm not the only one who feels this way. *sigh*

I really hope something gives too... I think I would love her just as much if she would just come clean.
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belenen ══╣garrulous╠══
Re: Edited
God help her.

That is my prayer.
darkpool ══╣╠══
I think it's interesting that you can really tell if people are unhealthy or not by their arms. the rest of their body may be proportioned any strange way, but people's arms are usually normal unless they are seriously under or overweight,
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belenen ══╣curious╠══
huh! Is that something you learned in class? I didn't know that!
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chillychilly22 ══╣╠══
Awww don't lose respect for her yet. Give her a chance. We all go thru our ups and downs, right? I've seen more of her on the news these days then ever before with adopting another foreign child, having some type of relationship with Brad Pitt, and being a diplomat to Afghan on top of being an super famous and sexy actress. She has a lot more responsibilities then before.

In my personal, two cent opinion I think she's just looking out for her children, those that she truly cares about (being Brad whether he's just a friend or more), her diplomatic status, and her image of being star. And so if she does an han ED, I guess all this stress isn't helping. I'M getting stressed for her just thinking about it. I think she's super and I'm not even a diehard Jolie fan. :)
analytical
belenen ══╣analytical╠══
I think she's super and I'm not even a diehard Jolie fan.
hee hee

Well I am doing my best to wait it out -- I think if she comes clean and just explains the relationship (whatever it actually is) I will respect her almost as much as I used to. I'd lose a little respect for her because of the deceit, but I would gain respect for her being honest about it even now when public opinion is against it.
sidheblessed ══╣╠══
I'm not impressed with her at all lately.
garrulous
belenen ══╣garrulous╠══
*sigh* I know.
meganlynnangela ══╣╠══
So I realize this is reallllllly late, but she does have that tattoo on her stomach..."Quod me nutrit, me destruit" or something, which means in Latin "What nourishes me also destroys me." Pretty sure she has a history of eating disorders.
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