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analysing = learning = reshaping knowledge to fit your own mindspace

I had a second meetup, and this time two other women showed up. It was interesting because one woman had a philosophy very similar to mine, and the other had pretty much the opposite. One, like me, believes it's good to reflect on one's experiences and analyse them, and the other feels that it is best to go with the flow, relax, and 'blend in' (to use her words). She heavily implied that analysing got in the way of really living -- whereas I believe that "the unexamined life is not worth living." Not to confuse caution with analysing -- I think the best time to analyse is AFTER you do a thing. I'm a fan of making mistakes, but only making them once (hopefully). I'd rather go with my instinct and make a mess than miss an opportunity. I think you can only be 'too' analytical if you don't immerse yourself in experience because you are too busy looking in from the outside. I definitely immerse myself in experience. and then afterwards I analyse it. like now! ;-)

In school, you don't learn something and then move on -- you learn, review, and move on. If you skip the review, you're not likely to remember, or use what you learned. The way I see it is, our minds are storage places. When you come across new information, it is randomly tossed into the mindspace. By analysing, you take this knowledge and reshape it into a configuration that fits best in your particular mindspace. Only then can you use it to its fullest potential. It can still be used in its original shape, but it cannot be easily built upon.

Another way of putting it is to say that when someone gives you knowledge, it is their knowledge, designed to fit into their mindspace (unless it is regurgitated; then you have no idea whose mindspace it fits, which is a little scary if you think about it!). It only becomes yours when you break it down and reshape it to fit in YOUR mindspace. People can tell me all day long that drinking water is good for me, but it remains their knowledge until I reshape it into mine (in this example, by experiencing the difference between good and poor hydration). Because of this way of thinking, I never take anyone's words to be truth for me -- they may be verrrrrry similar but they will have slight differences that will create instability in my thoughts if I do not first reshape them to fit my mindspace. There's only one side of difference between a rectangle and a pentagon, but they don't fit together in a pattern very easily.

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daghdha ══╣╠══
Another way I've heard the passing on of knowledge described is as pouring water from one container to another. The substance is essentially the same, but it is shaped by what contains it, and takes on the characteristics of the container as well. If the container is very cold, the water will freeze, but if it is too hot, it will boil and/or vaporize.

Don't know how profound that is, but thought I'd share.
belenen ══╣garrulous╠══
also a cool metaphor!
belenen ══╣analytical╠══
yes exactly, intellectual curiosity! a desire to understand, and to use that understanding to grow.

I see the past as a tool to be used, but not something to be worn or examined constantly. I run into a lot of people who think that if something is past, it doesn't matter -- but the past often sets up patterns for the future and the only way to break them is to find the beginning of them and change the pattern.

thank you!
phydeau ══╣╠══
I couldn't put it better, myself. I almost want to steal that and use it as my own.

I agree. I don't live in the past, but for better or worse, that's the life I've had, and it all leads up to the here and now. I still occasionally analyze things that I did 20 years ago. It's not an attempt to *change* the past, just *appreciate* it.
belenen ══╣analytical╠══
It's not an attempt to *change* the past, just *appreciate* it.

exactly! ;-)
free2be ══╣╠══
Going with the flow, relaxing, versus analyzing, that's a tough one. They're both good. But, while analyzing may help me get things supposedly clear in my view, in no way do I have the mental power to understand how who I am or what I do affects the grand scheme beyond my view. I just don't know. Being a part of this world has an effect on the world. What is it? How big is the effect? How important? That is unknown (to me). And without a decent (complete) picture, how good is my "analysis"? I can't fully compute my analysis either because my subconscious and unconscious parts are far more powerful than my conscious mind...and while I can affect them, I cannot control them. *They* mostly control *me*.

It's probably best that I admit I don't know much of anything and just throw myself into the knowing arms of the divine...letting it move through me. Still, I'm somehow afraid. Which may be why pitching virgins into volcanos is symbolic beyond its reality.

belenen ══╣garrulous╠══
balance is definitely important.
fionavere ══╣╠══
I'm kind of in between. I love thinking about things, but sometimes I can get lost in it. Unlike some of your other commenters, I DO tend to lose myself in the past. It's something I am working on quite a bit. I come up with some of the best stuff when I'm laying in bed thinking when I should be sleeping though. I don't know why, but that's when my brain gets the most active, and it's quite annoying. If I don't pick up the computer and write about it, I'll oftentimes lose it. In the morning I'll only remember what I was thinking like a nebulous cloud or something, it's not as clear as it was the night before. That's why you see a lot of posts from me that start out like "I should be sleeping but..." "Or, I can't sleep again, I'm thinking about..."

So yeah, interesting thoughts. I think the trick is to find a balance between the two. Analyze to the point where the knowledge benefits you, or fits your headspace as you put it, but try not to go beyond that point and drive yourself crazy with it. It's really easy for me to miss that mark. ;)
belenen ══╣analytical╠══
oh me too, I think it's just a part of my personality to be more alert and mindful at night.

yes indeed, balance is important. ;-)
mourningdoveava ══╣╠══
Well said.

Amd I think the most proper and best kinds of analysis actually encourage a person to go out and immerse themselves in more experience, in more living, either to test theories learned or formed or to discover or explore new ideas, thoughts, emotions. Experience-analysis-experience is one of those beautiful cyclical life processes that allow us a chance to constantly shape and redefine who we are.

A friend of mine is a college professor who studies rhet/comm theories, and she has said more than once that "self-educating review" is the one educational process that biochemically locks information into a person's brain, creating neural pathways and etc.
belenen ══╣analytical╠══
I think the most proper and best kinds of analysis actually encourage a person to go out and immerse themselves in more experience, in more living, either to test theories learned or formed or to discover or explore new ideas, thoughts, emotions.

YES. exactly!!! You said it beautifully!

ohhh, that last bit is very interesting. I love learning about the way the brain works. Especially when it validates my theories, heh. :D
aliyna ══╣Corset╠══
I pretty much fully agree with everything you've stated here and don't have much to add... I find it very amusing that you used hydration as an example, as that tends to be one of my hugest health downfalls and people are indeed always telling me I ought to drink more, and I know it true, but until I can make myself realize it in a way that suits my needs/mind/thought process, I likely won't do it.

As an aside, tell me more about the Bel in that usericon.
belenen ══╣analytical╠══
heh, I know what you mean! I used to hardly ever drink water (when I lived with people who paid for drinks), but since Ben and I are frugal, it's all we have usually, so I drink it all the time, and once I got used to the non-taste, I realized how different I feel when I am well-hydrated. it's amazing! Also, heat hardly bothers me at all when I am properly hydrated, but it can be suffocating when I'm not. Also, I enjoy drinking through a straw, so we have a stock of straws now and I stay hydrated!

hmmmm the Bel in that icon... three years and probably about 6 sizes ago, when I had hair down to my knees. I've actually been itching to change it, but I haven't yet managed to take one that looks properly analytical. That Bel was... insecure, didn't like her body (that was a year before I started curvygirls), socially anxious, lonely, but still passionate about life and growing. I hadn't yet recalled any of my abuse but I knew something was wrong because of how I reacted to sex... man, that was not a happy girl. BUT at that photoshoot I had decided to do my best to let my trueself shine through, so it's a very powerful shoot, and so many of the photos show facets of me in a very bright way. It's a paradox because they show my spirit so well, but they don't physically look like me at all.
sidheblessed ══╣╠══
I think you know my thoguhts on thisn but just to be clear, I agree that by thinking about and analysing an experience, we learn form it and get much more out f it in the end.
belenen ══╣adoring╠══
yes indeed ;-)
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