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wow, the results of my poll were NOT what I was expecting!

if you decided against the "how the christian church has created an anti-homosexual doctrine based on a misinterpretation" topic for the LJ idol entry, could you please tell me why? too dull? controversial? specific-to-certain-groups? Or was the one you chose just more ______?

I may end up writing about it anyway just because I've been meaning to write on it for a very long time. hmmmm.

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tralfamadore ══╣╠══
I didn't vote in the poll, but I wouldn't have chosen that option for two reasons: one, when I was attending a Christian church, I attended one in a denomination that had no problem with homosexuality, so in a way your statement seemed like a generalization. Two, I would be afraid that it might isolate or insult a lot of people in the competition. I think people need to know the truth, but I always have my competative hat on in the background.

I'd like you to write about it sometime, just like I would love for you to write up a rather elaborate description of your own spirituality, what you draw from different cultures, how you practice and celebrate, etc.
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belenen ══╣confused╠══
when you say no problem with homosexuality, what exactly do you mean? Because I've come across churches who said stuff like "It's between you and God" or "we don't judge" or "we accept all people" but not any that outright said "God is fine with homosexuality and here's why." The tendency seems to be, in my experience, that the 'accepting' churches are 'love the sinner, hate the sin' types -- but from my interpretation of the Bible, it's not a sin. If there actually ARE churches that are encouraging and not merely tolerant, I would LOVE to hear about them! I've searched and searched, and despite the fact that it seems SO OBVIOUS to me, no one else seems to have gotten it.

thanks so much for the feedback!
kiwi ══╣╠══
I agree with the above poster - I DID vote but voted against it as well and I do feel that it's likely to make a whole lotta broad statements that'll likely make a group of people unhappy.

This isn't to say you shouldn't write it - it's your journal and I say to hell with it, write whatever you want and more power to you. But as someone who's Catholic (non-practicing, but whatever) and has attended churches that are pro-homosexual, I'd rather not be grouped into a lump statement like that.

Plus, frankly, there were other, more interesting topics.
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belenen ══╣confused╠══
when you say pro-homosexual, what exactly do you mean? Because I've come across churches who said stuff like "It's between you and God" or "we don't judge" or "we accept all people" but not any that outright said "God is fine with homosexuality and here's why." The tendency seems to be, in my experience, that the 'accepting' churches are 'love the sinner, hate the sin' types -- but from my interpretation of the Bible, it's not a sin. If there actually ARE churches that are encouraging and not merely tolerant, I would LOVE to hear about them! I've searched and searched, and despite the fact that it seems SO OBVIOUS to me, no one else seems to have gotten it.

and when writing the post, I would definitely not phrase it so baldly ;-)

Thanks for the feedback!
blood_4_deniro ══╣╠══
i didnt vote for it because i know quite a few people who think polyamory = cheating, and i thought it'd be more interesting. i was 1 of those people til i realized that polyamory is quite often a joint decision between both partners, as cheating is going behind your partner's back and is completely dishonest.

tho i'll have to admit, i was having a hard time choosing between the polyamory/cheating and the how the christian church has created an anti-homosexual doctrine based on a misinterpretation one. i think theyre both equally interesting. tho i think the christian one has potential to upset more people, it's an opinion and you have a right to express your opinion in your own journal. i've often heard about the "homosexuality is wrong, it says so in the bible" and i've found the passage (in Romans i think it was), but it has some different interpretations depending on what version of the bible you use. when i had gone to this local baptist church when i was 17 (banned from stepping into the church because i refused to believe that hindus had to be converted from their "devil-worshiping ways" or be killed...they really said this) was VERY anti-homosexual and every week in sunday school there was something VERY anti-gay, anti-non-baptist, VERY anti-jew, dancing and music was evil, etc. very disturbing.
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belenen ══╣overwhelmed╠══
*deep sigh* yeah, I've been to that sort of church...

and I find it ironic that many people will say "it says so in the Bible" about random shit that they haven't even read themselves. This topic especially, UGH.

if I comment any more I'm gonna end up writing the whole post in this comment so I'll leave off there and say thanks! for the feedback ;-)
blood_4_deniro ══╣╠══
it also says you cant eat pork or lobster, you cant wear synthetic fabrics, etc, but most people seem to forget that...conveniently
phydeau ══╣╠══
Almost ditto what blood_4_deniro said, I voted for the polyamory simply because I found it a more misunderstood topic (even to myself, though I'm not one that equates it with cheating).

I would certainly love to hear both. I happen to agree that homosexuality is really only mentioned in the bible in vague terms, and the act, in and of itself is not the problem. So I really want you to lay it out in a way that is undoubtedly much more informed than myself.
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belenen ══╣writing╠══
awesome, thanks for the input! I'm glad I'm not the only one who would be interested in that one. ;-)
mourningdoveava ══╣╠══
I chose the polyamory issues myself because they reflect the current status of my life situation and I could use a little help here. *laughs* While I embrace it as a lifestyle concept and choice, it's become a bit of a motherfucker to work out from theory-to-practice...

That said, althougih I find the creation of anti-homosexuality doctrine interesting, I already am fairly well-versed on it; one of my bestest friends is a doctoral candidate and LGBT-affirming Christian who has actually gone back to the Greek and Latin translations from which the admonishments for homosexuals have come and found that in many cases they have been translated or interpreted wrongly...she made a damn convincing case and, in fact, she sort of 'saved Christianity' for me.

Still, I'd love to hear your take on it at some point.

<3
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belenen ══╣iconoclast╠══
wow, I want to meet this bestest friend! I have searched and searched and not found anyone who agreed with me (until making the poll and this post). I'm baffled to find so many people saying "O, I knew all along" :-p But happy about it!

Glad to know you're still interested in my particular take ;-D
notashamed ══╣╠══
I didn't pick it because we talked about it a lot in my church this fall and I am simply overwhelmed by that topic and well... sick of it right now.

If you write about it, i'll no doubt read it, I'd just rather hear/read what you ahve to say about the other topics.
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belenen ══╣writing╠══
ah, I can understand that. Thanks for explaining!
rockstarjoker4 ══╣╠══
honestly, you'd posted so many different choices, it was hard to choose one at all! I ended up going with the polyamory because Its a topic that hasn't been discussed enough (in my opinion) and to hear you write about it on LJ idol might be able to bring awareness of the differences between polyamory and cheating to another level- a wider audience.

I agree that in general, christian based (or bible based) religions tend to look negatively on homosexuality, and probably don't have any good reason to do it- and would love to hear your reasons about why they're wrong- I just felt that you'd brought up so many other topics that hadn't had as much attention as the morality of homosexuality has had.
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belenen ══╣iconoclast╠══
oh I see! Thanks so much for explaining. ;-)
queerbychoice ══╣╠══
Because I've read about it already before and I have too little interest in the Christian church to feel much desire to read more about it.
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belenen ══╣garrulous╠══
okie doke!
lorelei_sakti ══╣╠══
I chose the ethics expected of each sex and how they differ because it's not talked about so much anymore since women's lib happened decades ago, and I thought you could present a fresh view on it. I believe there are still significant differences between the sexual ethics expected of men and women, and people should re-examine these.
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belenen ══╣feminist╠══
awesome, thanks for commenting! I agree -- far too many people think the need for feminism is over. *rolls eyes*
bellerisa ══╣╠══
Well cheating is a subject close to my heart so I'd always be more likey to vote for anything to do with that. As for the church thing, I already know that the Christian Church's doctrines are messed up and that's unlikely to change anytime soon so I guess that subject is kind of dull to me.

Please write about whatever YOU like! :)
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belenen ══╣writing╠══
thanks for explaining! ;-)
sidheblessed ══╣╠══
I just wanted to hear what you had to say on topic I chose is all.
on communication, social justice, intimacy, consent, friendship & other relationships, spirituality, gender, queerness, & dreams. Expect to find curse words, nudity, (occasionally explicit) talk of sex, and angry ranting, but NEVER slurs or sexually violent language. I use TW when I am aware of the need and on request.
Expect to find curse words, nudity, (occasionally explicit) talk of sex, and angry ranting, but NEVER slurs or sexually violent language. I use TW when I am aware of the need and on request.