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fuck you RadFem2012 / also, exclusion-on-body-characteristics is NOT the way to safety/freedom

There's this "radical feminist" conference happening this year that is a blight on the name -- it's a conference only open to "women born women living as women." That's fucking ridiculous because radical feminism is ALL ABOUT breaking down gender roles. But apparently the poor cis women need a place to get away from all the trans women who are oppressing them with their male privilege. The cesspool of bullshit runneth over! Do some fucking research -- just the murder stats ought to be enough.

I have two problems with this. First of all, supporting existing hierarchies is neither radical nor feminist -- privileged "activist" groups should not be excluding those with less privilege. If you didn't learn from first wave feminism's "only upper/middle class straight white women count" mistake, go back to feminism 101 and leave the organizing conferences to people who care about more than one-step-away-from-privilege-pinnacle people. UGH. Your privilege reeks and you're splashing it everywhere.*

Second, the idea that having an exclusive gather based on external bodily characteristics automatically gives some kind of safety/freedom from privileged/oppressive behaviors. NO IT DOESN'T. It's a simple way to find MOSTLY safe people, but it's certainly not the best way. Exclusive gathering is a false sense of security -- it excludes people who might look different but would learn and be respectful, and includes people who might be trying to impose their internalized oppression on others who are the same. I would never try to push my way into a gathering that didn't want me, but I also would never form a gathering based on some external similarity to me. If I was having a meeting about being classed as female, or being queer, or being trans, I'd set the topic and set rules for behavior, and let people agree in order to join. If I wanted to create a sense of safety, I might have a behavior rule that said, "if you have not experienced this, attend to listen only." More likely, I would use some variant of numbers 3, 4, 5, & 6 of my house agreements, perhaps with volunteer bouncers just in case someone could not be civil.

The idea that because someone has experienced similar oppression they will not visit that oppression on you is sheer ludicrous error. I've experienced silencing, policing, 'splaining, shaming, erasing, and other tools of the kyriarchy being used against me by female, queer, trans, poly, fat, etc people. And I know it's not just me. I'd trust someone with more privilege who was willing to be called on it and stop over someone who merely had similar oppression ANY time.

*on the bright side, at least I didn't go to the conference unaware and get surrounded by that shit.

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delicatexflower ══╣hope. "make it yours again"╠══

are you serious? that's awful. i have plenty of friends who are males who define them as feminist. what about the transgender community? there's so much wrong with that! so glad you knew this before hand, definitely! *hugs* it's so good to see you update more often, btw! i missed ya!
sidheblessed ══╣╠══
I absolutely hate the "only women born women living as women" criterion. It's just another form of oppressing and devaluing people. Also, excluding people with less privilege just perpetuates an us and them mentality. It lets people keep their privilege without exploration of it and without any if the potentially painful personal growth that often results. Moreover, it's an act of erasure against an entire population of women.

It makes me angry when groups supposedly about change and equality pull a stunt like this. It shows how many things they still need to understand about what is meant by equality and feminism. I also agree that experiencing similar oppression does not mean for one second that someone won't commit any acts of oppression against you.

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