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anxiety & people-fear / fretting about friends


icon: "disassociative (a digital painting of a stylized person in profile with wide open screaming mouth and arms up with palms spread wide. Head and hands flow into strands like blood vessels)"

I cried for hours yesterday and in talking with Topaz about it I realized that this isn't a cyclic feeling like I was thinking (I was starting to wonder if it was hormonal), it is something I feel every single day and just usually repress, and once or twice a month it comes out in a gigantic multi-hour sobbing shaking mess. Every day that I see another human being and feel that connection is impossible, the feeling gets a little bigger. I keep hoping something will change. But it doesn't. And I push it down and put a lid (made of hope and will) on. Often the lid pops off and I can wrestle it back on after only 5 minutes of crying. And sometimes the lid disintegrates entirely and I can't build a new one immediately and it's out and it's everywhere and no one wants to be around me because good god stop whining when you already have so many amazing friends!

That question I answered the other day about my most difficult-to-discuss mental issue? this is it. It's usually so squished I can't find it when someone asks how I am doing, but I can sense it there, so it is hard to answer. And when it is not squished sufficiently and someone asks me how I am, it boils over. Or if the person feels especially empathetic, it boild over. So I fucking hate when people ask how I am because it disturbs my only coping mechanism for this.

But my answer the other day I think is also true, because I remembered that Kylei's anxiety is also usually focused on people, but theirs looks different because they are more outgoing. Kylei gets anxious that people don't want to continue being their friend. I get anxious that they don't ever want to begin.

I think I have a lot of anxiety that I just squish very hard. That might be part of the reason my memory is so bad- my brain is always running a squish program and can't put it on hold to actually focus on fetching a memory.

I think that the reason I couldn't understand why I kept feeling this when it is so irrational is that it is chemical. At least, one can hope. I'm going to talk to my doctor about an anti-anxiety med (NOT a benzo). I'm gonna ask about mirtazapine because that is anti anxiety and depression (and I want to go off the bupropion I'm currently taking for depression), its not an SSRI (SSRIs make me depressed) or MAOI (which have risks that terrify me) and it works on adrenergic receptors which feels intuitively correct to me, and prescribing particular meds is always guesswork anyway.

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lusimeles ══╣╠══
I'm really sorry you feel this way. It sounds awful :(
belenen ══╣exuviate╠══
thank you, I appreciate the sympathy <3 I am glad to have realized and be able to do something now.
heyslowdown ══╣╠══

I experience and repress these feelings too

belenen ══╣gentle╠══
*empathy*
ragnarok_08 ══╣AoT ★ in stillness╠══
I'm so sorry that you feel this way :(

*hugs*
belenen ══╣gentle╠══
thank you *accepts hugs*
lordsauron ══╣archery╠══
I share your anxious pain
I suffer from clinical anxiety myself. My heart races whenever I see a phone number I do not recognize calling me. I get terribly worked up over seemingly trivial worries. Also, it is affecting my competition.

This past tournament I tried very hard to push out anxious thoughts while I was on the shooting line. Instead of "just execute your process" it was "don't fuck up this shot...omg I'm gonna fuck up this shot...omgomgomg". The rest of my archery is good, sometimes great. I've had several people tell me I have good form. It's dealing with the anxiety at the shooting line that is difficult for me to overcome.

If there is one selfish thing I'm allowed to have, it is an end to this insufferable anxiety. I hate it. I don't want it. I want to go do things and not be filled with abject dread and fear.

I don't like chemical treatments for anxiety or other mental disorders but, neurotransmitters are the basis for our thought and emotion. If they can help and a) do not cause dependence and b) actually help fix combined with quality psychotherapy then I will accept.
belenen ══╣analytical╠══
Re: I share your anxious pain
I want to go do things and not be filled with abject dread and fear.
oh, I feel you so much on this.

I think chemical treatments are the correct choice for chemical ailments. Sometimes a person is depressed because of psychological things, for instance, but sometimes they're depressed because of chemistry in their brain and all the talking in the world won't fix that.
wildrose ══╣╠══
belenen ══╣gentle╠══
oh I feel you so much :-/ I hate when I get pushed to share about meaningful things in unsafe settings (like work) for that reason.
webgirluk ══╣╠══
I've never taken anxiety medication but I certainly relate to this post and struggles. I too find it hard to have proper connection/reach my potential of it and sometimes what we have does not seem enough. We live in a world where many feel comfort in family life and that link there but as well I kind of think with the right friends, it can feel secure, also if they truly value it and you know it's forever. I'm rambling and tossing ideas and sending a hug x
belenen ══╣giving╠══
*hugs back* thanks friend <3
raidingparty ══╣╠══
Blatant advertising:
If you have time and interest, the "tapping world summit" is going on online right now. Today's talks are especially pertinent, as it talks about the pressures people put on themselves. Each day has two hour-long interviews, and also a 20-minute daily meditation.

They could use some work on addressing people correctly and the assumptions they're making, but I've found some useful ideas with which to work there.
belenen ══╣garrulous╠══
aw man, I am so bad at keeping up with time. This sounded very interesting! I am sorry to have missed it.
raidingparty ══╣╠══
No worries! I have a few notes.
One important idea was coming to talk to the critical voice with understanding rather than hostility. They tend to be echoes of things we've been taught (explicitly or implicitly), and mirror the voices we respect. Trying to eliminate them is very hard, since they're part of us, and mostly want to keep us safe (albeit with a limited understanding of the total situation, much like a cat riding in a car). Soo... comfort the parts of us that express concerns that might sound otherwise unreasonable, and make sure they know they've been heard; once that happens, they feel safer, and tend to be less vocal.
I haven't had any boogeymen recently, but I'll see to trying something out in this vein and seeing if it works.

There are several tapping guides around the internet, and I'd be happy to work with you as well if you want help.
kiwi ══╣╠══
*hug*
belenen ══╣giving╠══
*hugs back*
kehlen_crow ══╣╠══
I think I have a lot of anxiety that I just squish very hard. That might be part of the reason my memory is so bad- my brain is always running a squish program and can't put it on hold to actually focus on fetching a memory.

Very possible. I h've had a similar experience: some years ago, I started to somewhat artificially induce anxiety, to get more productive. (I accepted a lot — too many — tasks, and all the deadlines somewhat helped propel me along).

At first it worked, then it stopped working, because I had ~too much~ to do and I started having anxiety attack where I couldn't do anything at all with a deadline too close. Then I had to stop and do nothing, and relax, and miss the deadline deliberately, and then run to catch up.

And then anxiety started interfering with my health, and I stopped inducing it. I was lucky I still could, but the thing I discovered (and that I did not notice when I was so anxious all the time) is that anxiety interfered with my brain as well!

My normal is constantly skipping between areas of knowledge in my mind and comparing-analyzing-just SEEING related things everywhere. And I stopped doing that and did not notice!

The other normal is constantly and randomly remembering quotes and plot of various favourite books and movies, in detail, often word-for-word (in the background of my mind). And it stopped happening as well! Both are unacceptable.



Good luck fighting anxiety, you do need to find a way to control it better.
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